The 2012 U.S. Super Rugby League schedule was recently announced and it included some changes the the format of the league, specifically, the playing of more games. This Is American Rugby sat down with Rugby Super League President Sean Kelly and New York Athletic Club head coach Mike Tolkin to talk about some of those changes.
This Is American Rugby: The Super League is going to play an all-time high of 8 matches, is that something that was a priority going into the season?
Sean Kelly: Yes, it’s been talked about within the league for a long time but for many reasons was never done before. Some of those reasons involved the cost, (the more games you play the higher the travelling cost is for each team competing in the league). Another reason is that the league has always tried to comply with USA Rugby’s request to end our season before the International season begins. 2011 was a World Cup year and as such we were not in a position to expand our regular season as we were requested by USA Rugby to finish by May 21, 2011 with which we complied.
Mike Tolkin: It was certainly a priority because players need more games to improve themselves and feel like they have participated in a worthwhile endeavor; teams need more games to hit their stride and realize the height of their true capability. With so few games last year, teams got into real trouble with only one or two slip-ups. Lastly, but just as important, clubs need to feel that they are getting a bang for their buck - if they are laying out a good amount of money, they need to get their money's worth.
TIAR: Do you think adding more games to the schedule makes it more appealing for players (like national team players) to play in the Super League?
SK: No, if you are a player with national team aspirations then 8 games is not going to cut it. The more games you play the better and fitter you get. You really need to play in a league that has 25 or more games if you want to compete and win at the international level. What the RSL does is give those players who can not compete in a league of that length a chance to play at a higher level in this country.
MT: For sure; simply put, players want to play games. As for the national team players, one of the complaints is too few matches in the RSL, so we hope this makes the league more enticing. Because of the limited resources of USA Rugby in general, we need to get our national team players more matches to better prepare them, and we hope those continue to become of a better standard.
TIAR: Were the owners big proponents of the change or was it more of a league directive?
SK: The league is run by the Club’s, therefore it was a joint decision taken by all members of the league to get as many regular season games in as possible between March and end of May 2012 without breaking the bank. Many RSL members have been pushing for more games for the past few years and none were more vocal than two great stalwarts of Rugby in this country who sadly passed away this year. Dr. Richard Donelli (Old Blue New York) and Mr. Keith Brown (Chicago Lions) both advocated for giving players more quality games. Both men will be sorely missed by the league and Rugby.
MT: It certainly was not a directive, but I think that it was something that both parties saw as a need to improve the RSL.
TIAR: How does the new schedule effect travel costs?
SK: It will increase travel costs: by adding the extra away game but there is no way around it and the clubs understand that.
TIAR: Do you think that the Super League is in a solid position in terms of growth going forward?
SK: So long as you have a collective number of teams who want to play the highest level of rugby against the best competition in the US and are willing to fund the cost themselves, then yes, the Super League is in a solid position. As far as growth we have been there with 18 teams in 2007 & 2008, since then the number of teams has been on the decline. Maybe the league, the country and the standard of rugby presently can not handle more than 10 teams. Only time will tell.
MT: I think the increased schedule is a move forward; we have had some minor sponsorships emerge, and we had some very good domestic players perform well in the RWC. I think our biggest challenges continue to be creating a larger pool of really competitive teams; having all teams with acceptable/good facilities in order to promote RSL as an elite competition; gaining major sponsorship, and getting TV coverage, esp. for finals.
TIAR: What is still your biggest challenge?
SK: Travel Cost: Each team in the league shares the average travel cost of the league. Flying players & coaches across this country is not cheap but in order to play the best team in another city you have to fly there and until someone offers to pay or helps to offset some of this cost it’s the biggest challenge for each team in the league to come up with the money to pay for those flights.
TIAR: What kind of media outreach is the league going to be doing this next year?
SK: We are presently looking at streaming every league game in 2012. We have been in contract with a company that specializes in it and we think that we can do it without breaking the bank. We have a web site, unfortunately it’s old and needs revamping but without sponsorship dollars it’s hard to justify spending club’s money when you have travel costs that come first. We have a Media Officer (Mr. John Doody) who reports on all our games and coordinates with USA Rugby to get our write-ups out to the membership and Media on a weekly basis. We have a Face book page that we need to utilize more but all this takes time, money and resources of which the league has limited quantity.
TIAR: Will the games be streamed on the internet?
SK: We are currently looking in to it and hope that is something that we can do in 2012.
TIAR: The Chicago Lions dropped out of the league this year, why?
SK: The Chicago Lions dropped out of the league citing that the Midwest RFU had decided to determine eligibility for their 2011-2012 Midwest D1 league based on those players who had 3 or more walk-on appearances in the 2011 Super League. They deemed those players ineligible to play Div 1 until the fall of 2012, thus eliminating approximately 25 of the Lions players from competing in the 2011 Midwest Div 1 fall season. The Lions could not justify limiting 25 of there players to only 6 to 8 competitive games in a year and therefore took the step to drop out of the league in order to allow these players to compete all year round even if it meant leaving the league that they help found.
TIAR: Where other teams (Dallas) considering dropping out as well, and if so, why?
SK: No, I was unaware of any other team dropping out and only read of Dallas’s unfounded consideration in the media.
TIAR: Expansion of the Super League is a topic amongst fans. Was there any discussions with clubs to enter the league this year?
SK: Yes, we initiated talks with the two (Glendale Raptors/Olympic Club) 2011 Men’s D1 finalists but neither took us up on our offer to enter the league.
TIAR: Do you think the Super League may be looking to add more clubs along the line of the Utah Warriors model?
SK: The Super League is always willing to entertain entries into the league. The Utah Warriors being one such entry that was admitted.
MT: I think a good model in its initial stages - an apparently good infrastructure, great facility, good player pool. There is nothing wrong with players getting paid or reimbursed as some have groused about. Why is that a bad thing?? The only thing that clubs with one big benefactor must beware of is not building an infrastructure to support the club should that money man disappear. We've seen it before at all levels where a team is riding high for a certain amount of time and then disappear literally overnight.